
Map, NY Times
Today, the Taliban announced they are pulling out of Buner, the district just 70 miles from Islamabad, [see left image]. According to the NY Times, “Some 400 to 500 insurgents consolidated control of” the strategic district, “setting up checkpoints and negotiating a truce similar to the one that allowed the Taliban to impose Islamic law in the neighboring Swat Valley.” However, on Friday, media outlets cited militant spokesman Muslim Khan, who announced, “Taliban have already withdrawn from some areas and a complete withdrawal will start after some time.” Dawn, in its coverage, reported, “The withdrawal began after the government threatened the militants with action and after outlawed Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), Tehreek-i-Nifaz-i-Shariat-Muhammadi (TNSM) and Malakand Commissioner signed an agreement,” although Muslim Khan denied the Taliban was leaving due to any pressure. BBC News added, “The Taliban have agreed a peace deal bringing Sharia law to some districts in return for ending their insurgency. The peace agreement covers six districts of Malakand division, including the troubled Swat region, in North West Frontier Province (NWFP).”
Although the Taliban are now withdrawing from Buner, the consolidation of power in the district raised many red flags, particularly among U.S. officials. In today’s NY Times, “U.S. Questions Pakistan’s Will to Stop the Taliban,” Carlotta Gall and Eric Schmitt reported that despite the Taliban shift closer to the capital, “Pakistani authorities deployed just several hundred poorly paid and equipped constabulary forces to Buner, who were repelled in a clash with the insurgents, leaving one police officer dead.” The news agency added,
The limited response set off fresh scrutiny of Pakistan’s military, a force with 500,000 soldiers and a similar number of reservists. The army receives $1 billion in American military aid each year but has repeatedly declined to confront the Taliban-led insurgency…The military remains fixated on training and deploying its soldiers to fight the country’s archenemy, India. It remains ill equipped for counterinsurgency, analysts say, and top officers are deeply reluctant to be pressed into action against insurgents who enjoy family, ethnic and religious ties with many Pakistanis.
The government’s recent negotiations with the Swati Taliban have also garnered criticism from the U.S. and Pakistani officials. Former Pakistan ambassador to the U.S., Maleeha Lodhi called the pact a “disaster,” noting, “First and foremost, it represents a retreat from Jinnah’s Pakistan…It is the very antithesis of [his] visions and ideals, the core of which were a modern, unified Muslim state, not one fragmented along obscurantist and sectarian lines.” She further asserted, “Rattled by more aggressive actions by militants, the political and security establishments caved in to the challenge … The deal signalled weakness and bankruptcy on the part of the ruling elite that [has] chosen appeasement.” Despite the criticism, though, the government continues to defend the militant peace deal, arguing it was their “only viable option.” In his column this week, the Guardian’s Simon Tisdall wrote,
Some analysts suggest the government is biding its time, waiting for the Islamists to over-reach – and that when it is plain to the public that they cannot be trusted or reasoned with, Islamabad will send the army to crush them. But others detect a lack of political will, a deep-set ambiguity about confronting groups that have served Pakistan’s purposes in the past in Afghanistan and Kashmir, and also, perhaps, a failure of nerve.
So, which is it? While I am inclined to believe the government lacks the political will necessary to combat the rising Taliban threat, recent developments have polarized the public against the militancy – whether or not that was the state’s intention or just the product of recent escalating developments. According to MP and The News’ columnist Ayaz Amir, the turning point came after Sufi Muhammad‘s rally this past Sunday, [see related CHUP post]. He noted, “But the Maulana’s rhetoric and Buner, both happening in quick succession, have hit public opinion like a bombshell. All at once Pakistan has woken up to the Taliban danger, the state of denial transformed almost overnight into a state of alarm.” Dawn’s Cyril Almeida echoed, “Suddenly, people have woken up to the fact that the great soldier of Islam is a dangerous kook. ‘He thinks we’re what?’ ‘He wants to do what?’ Yep, he thinks the rest of us are sick and what we really need is a dose of Sufi’s medicine. Y’know, to straighten us out about our romance with infidel democracy and yearning for quaint things like basic rights, a functional economy, education, etc.”
Almeida echoed my sentiments exactly when he added that this “wake up call” needs to amount to more than initial outrage, which has been the norm thus far. He noted,
But the outrage will prove momentary, the consensus fleeting if the people’s representatives don’t rise to the occasion. There are a few promising signs, with the PML-N and the religious parties joining the MQM in expressing their reservations about what was agreed to in Swat…But desperately as we do need a public consensus against militancy that is not what is ultimately going to defeat the militants. To defeat the militants, the state, particularly the security establishment, must be on board.
The military made an effort to indicate its resolve in the face of criticism, when COAS [Chief of Army Staff] Gen. Ashfaq Kayani told an operational meeting today that the Army was committed to preserving the safety and well-being of Pakistan’s people, adding, “The operational pause, meant to give the reconciliatory forces a chance, must not be taken for a concession to the militants.” According to Dawn, “It was the most direct statement by General Kayani, or any other security or civilian official, about the prevailing situation and the manner in which it needs to be tackled.” While we must wait and see whether these statements translate into formative action, the next 48 hours will be crucial, particularly because sources say the military operation in Swat will soon be underway.
A friend asked me this morning as I was formulating my thoughts whether or not we should be truly scared. And I would say yes. Here’s the thing – the Taliban may have withdrawn from Buner, but the fact remains that they were able to consolidate power there in the first place. These militants aren’t just waving their scary guns from the frontier, they were 70 miles from Islamabad, my hometown. Their influence has pervaded Karachi, one of Pakistan’s main cities. They have perpetrated attacks on the relatively untouched Lahore. They have the ability to not just come at us from the north, but enclose upon us from all directions. The threat is very real and it’s very near. It is dangerous because they present a united front.
The reason why hope is not lost, therefore, is because Pakistan – the state, the military, and the civil society – are finally beginning to be on the same page. A successful strategy against the Taliban cannot work without all three actors – the military needs the public consensus behind it, not only to marginalize support for the militants but to bolster its own moral resolve. The public needs both the government and the military to enact a unified strategy and restore security. And finally, the government needs to restore the people’s faith in the state. While I am not a politician or an army general, I am a citizen. And as a Pakistani, the only way to save ourselves is if we do more than just sit on the sidelines. Take notes from the citizens of Budaber, who have established neighborhood patrols to fend off the Taliban. If you don’t want to be out on the street, voice your protest by attending rallies or circulating petitions telling the government to wake up. But for God’s sake and our country’s sake, do something.

It seems people are slowly starting to realize that the Taliban is not waging a Holy War, but rather simply want power.
To the govt: see what we can achieve by just exerting a little pressure and getting off our lazy asses?
Run Taliban! Run!
See, I don’t fully buy the notion that the Taliban “backed off” because the government put pressure on them. They came in to Buner with demands for the Sharia deal, they signed an agreement and they left. What happens next time Sufi Muhammad decides he wants to give the government another demand? Does the Taliban move into Islamabad then?
What is good is that opposition leaders, political figures, the military, and most importantly, the people, are finally starting to get it. Now, at this point, I’m skeptical – but I’m still hopeful. Next time Sufi Muhammad or the TTP issue another demand, I hope we do more than half-ass our response and give in. That is where the change can happen.
My question is, what is the government doing about these men infiltrating the cities? Women in Khi are terrified and have started covering their heads when they leave the house. Is Pakistan going to become the new Iran, with religious police enforcing women’s chaadars?
Kalsoom, you have stated my fears exactly. Taliban are not afraid of the Govt. And the what if…still exists. Was this a test to see Zardaris’ reaction or the reaction of the army? Reasoning is only with people who respect others and unfortunately the Taliban don’t have that feeling, not even for their own kind. Your advise to take to the streets, raise awareness is one idea, let’s hear some more. What about the media? Can they be approached to put pressure on the Govt. Swat is Pakistan and no one had the right to make any deals with part of the country without the consensus of the people.
LM, I certainly hope Pakistan does not become anything like Iran. But you have pointed out something that makes one wonder. KP
KP -
Wouldn’t it be great if there was some consensus by members of the media – there have been a bunch of op-eds writing about the government’s take on the Taliban – but what if there was a more concerted effort?
Kalsoom, you’re right on the money. We need more active citizens like yourself to shed a light on a more positive and realistic note of how things are going down in Pakistan. Thanks again for mentioning the rally in your post.
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=80402601570
Best Regards,
Tajdar O. Chaudry
It all seems quite confused with Al Jazera reporting they have come back (maybe left the kettle on in Swat).
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2009/04/200942417947485300.html
Some think this is rotating non local troops with locals.
It seems it might have been in response to a threatening show of force by the army.
One interesting idea gaining ground amoungst some commentators is the army is in barracks because its morale is quite low and there is an attempt going on at programming them sufficiently to be able to fight those they could regard as their countrymen, indeed who have been lionised to them in the past.
Certainly I was amased at how many soldiers litterally ran whilst being filmed by Al Jazera following a Taliban counter attack, I think in Swat (was a documentary by Rageh Omaar).
In a way morale for me is a more likely explanation as the army has had no problem with repressive actions historically in Balochstan, Bengal and so on. Maybe though there is an ethnic dimension to this? I would have thought the majority of soldiers are Punjabis but is the army actually more diverse?
Chris,
My friend I was just talking to says they are withdrawing, but aren’t going to FULLY withdraw – as in some elements are staying in Buner – very disconcerting.
And you’re right – the problem with the military has been that they are mostly Punjabi. Apparently the previous policy when dealing with FATA was that to be a certain level in the military operating in that area, you had to be from the tribal areas and speak the language. Therefore, the military could get the nuances of the region and be able to deal with the tribal leaders appropriately. However, the recent policy was that it didn’t matter where you are from to be operating in FATA – therefore, many of the military soldiers today are Punjabi. So that dsconnect doesn’t just apply to FATA but also to Balochistan as well.
So ultimately the solution will be bolstering the Frontier Corps, who ARE from the region – however, the morale is very low and we really need to concentrate more resources to inspire these men and to ensure their loyalty (i.e. increasing payment, ensuring their families are protected, etc.).
Kalsoom, I believe there are certain elements apart from what you have described:
* I agree that political will is very weak. Just observe the fact that the decision for Swat came very very late (whatever the decision that’s another debate). Secondly, the incompetency is so that they decided to engage them in Swat, but didn’t come up with any strategy (or even a debate) on how to engage them when they go out of Swat as a result of the deal (say e.g. to Buner and all). Obviously they weren’t going to give up arms, it was natural that they disperse to other areas.
* There definitely will be a residual spark of “agitation”
in areas that they have visited – but it may not necessarily be them, themselves. There are so many fragile elements that could trigger anything.
* I do not think that the military will let “Islamabad fall” that easily albeit I am not too sure about the political wing and will of our country, at the moment. Even there are parts in the civilian population itself that dont really ‘care’.
* Aside: Those who do criticize the peace deal, a simple analysis of: “what would have been the alternative?” will reveal that the options were strangely very limited.
(I stated some concerns and analysis, plz read my blog on: http://tinyurl.com/d5fcw6)
I particularly liked the fact that you highlighted that both Cyril as well as Ayaz Amir thought that with Sufi Mohammad’s tongue-in-cheek statements, it has drawn together all the govt forces.
One of the most concerting of things for me has been the recent statements of the Pak Army that we will come together and fight the Taliban.
As I sat in my car last night, I realized that we Pakistanis like our freedom. I don’t think we’ll let anyone pull us by our homegrown beards and drag us off to the mosque. And watching Indian as well as Pakistani songs on the Pakistani media, I don’t think Pakistanis really would support the Taliban coming in.
My Take on this one.. Kals…. Ghosts of the past have caught up with Pakistan. Worse… they bring with them an army of ghosts old and new.
While the neighbours, and the world alike were shouting at the top of their voices to come out of the denial mode, Pakistan was wavering back its fists at them with a resolve, not to accept that the threat was real and at the doorstep. Taliban has become the pet dog which has got rabied. And its rage and fits… it does not sense its masters or enemies anymore. While in is charge, it bites like a mad dog does, everyone that falls in its path. This Denial is going to cost Pakistan and its neighbours big time. Will come to the neighbours part shortly.
Pakistan has reached a typical catch 22 situation. Every act by its Govt., Civil Society, Army and everything will be typical of Isaac Newton’s third law of motion. Every action taken by any of these three would attract an equal and opposite reaction. If the Civil Society does not take action of appraising the Janata and create a revolutionary consensus, they get stronger, if they do, then they face the wrath of the Taliban for raising an alarm for Allah’s army. The govt., if still sits numbkneed and does not act, the enemy gets emboldened and surges ahead in its conquest If it does take action, the mindless warriors will strike with a vengeance and make system of the infidels shiver right down their spine uptill their tail bones.
THe Army here needs a separate and independent mention. The biggest loser or gainer in this all would be the army. How? Bling Bling…. it created this mess in the first place. So while this Taliban and other outfits, raised and reared as strategic assets, it would be stupid to let go of an army which would be at beck and call as and when require especially against the Infidels (read India). How can such assets be let gone of? The problem or the reason for the Army’s inactivity would be this one particular reason. Quiet a few analysts actually say that there are Paki Army personnel embedded with these assets. It makes it all the more difficult for it to react or rather act. Another aspect is the fact that it is already accused of getting killed and killing itself, the people of the very country it is supposed to provide security to. Its popularity charts are way down than what used to be. Any action, would further deomonise it in minds of the masses, especially the rural ones. International scrutiny of the ISI and the army is already a known fact. So the sitation for the army is even more dangerous. Under international pressure, it has to act against its own strategic assets created for the final battle with India, and kill its own people thus making it an enemy of the mindless warriors and masses alike. In the process, heloing the cause of the taliban by giving them recruitment adverts and more orphaned and agitated mindless warriors. I think the action that Gen Saab is asserting about, is more out of international demand for it. The state of denial is still very much present.
Coming to neighbours. Namely, India, Iran and China. While China is an old friend, wonder how long will it be able to pushy Pakistan’s cause. And if Taliban comes in, then, China too would feel threatened and also, would not be able to do much for Pakistan in the inernational arena. Also, since it also has minor problems in one of its western borders, it may not be comfortable with Taliban. Iran, on the western border, is a Shia state and hence has its own concerns. With the Deobandi/Wahabi mindset, Taliban is definitely not going to be it preferred neighbourhood Govt. It will have its concerns too. Coming to the arch rival India. India, is threated by the fact that Taliban is near its doorstep. With a nuclear armed neighbour which also is its enemy, India will have to evaluate its strategies to secure its borders from the mindless warriors army. Especially since it’s treated as a Zionist Hindu state. Two out of the three neighbour here would get sucked up into this mess. And they would already be gearing up for the worst.
Until unless this denial mode is not switched off, the region will keep suffering, and all because some ghosts from the past came visiting with their friends.
@Yawar
I am not so sure that the Pak army is ready for this long haul. From the reports I have read they have suffered innumerable loses mainly because they are not only ill equipped for this type of insurgency, they lack the will power.
Why don’t they move to these area in hugh numbers and consolidate one town at a time???
I have one more question to ask you – Why do most people in Pakistan still feel India is the mortal enemy ?
Raj:
India was always seen as the larger enemy. It’s a mode of thinking instilled in the Pak Army, not a way of life for Pakistanis.
I have a lot of family in India and I would absolutely love to go visit Mumbai and even live there if possible. And I speak for a majority of us Pakistanis. You have no idea how popular the IPL is in Pakistan and it is after corporate INdia.
I think the army is now getting its act together. It was always trained to fight an organized army, not a guerilla war and that explains the current situtation. But the population is with them. And I do see a glimmer of hope shining through.
I agree with Yawar – but I think a distinction needs to be made between the old guard Pakistanis – who still have the memory of the wars in their minds, and the new generation of younger Pakistanis – while many of us did experience the Kargil crisis, we did see a time where relations between our two countries were relatively peaceful – many exchanges have taken place and there have been gestures of goodwill. We’re not as tainted by the memories of war or anti-India propaganda like our parent’s generation may have, and I think that’s significant – we are the rising generation of our country after all.
@ Kalsoom,
I think people like you should be in charge, the urban young generation who has seen the world and understand counter viewpoints.
I think that change is taking place in India. Right now young guns of old politicians are taking the charge and I hope as time goes by young guns with non-political pedigree will come to forefront.
I hope something similar happens in Pakistan and something happens soon!
Yawar: I agree with you. I think us Pakistanis do like our freedom, and although we sat inured and watched the fall of Afghanistan, now that our own backs are against the wall I believe we will take more initiative. By ‘we’ I largely mean the civil society. It’s the ISI and the army itself (the very physical tool we need to defeat the Taliban) whose loyalties are so questionable (as a lot of people have pointed out in their comments).
TTV India: I too, think that Pakistan did substantially ignore these growing threats and utilized them often to meet their own goals when desired, however I also think some of the denial in the face of international pressure is understandable for a country that is very touchy about its sovereignty since it has often been threatened. There are a lot of people out there still who wish Pakistan had never been created and will it to collapse. Even some 60+ years later.
Since we are on the issue of denial (I am not propagating it)…. I found this article that should of interest to a lot of you. The Sec. of State of the US finally acknowledged their historic role in the expansion (military and otherwise) of the Taliban. Def. worth a read, I assure you a sigh of relief in some form follows.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/world/12-us-created-taliban-and-abandoned-pakistan-clinton–bi-06
Thanks SB – it’s so refreshing to finally hear a U.S. official acknowledge something we’ve been aware of for 30 years. I think if the U.S. wants the Pak military to be trained in counterinsurgency for this war against the Taliban, there needs to be some reassurance that they won’t be abandoned again.
@ Sheer B – Well, I think the batch of 47-67 are now long gone. The new breed which was not a part of that partition is really not much concerned about whether it should have happenened or not. Being an Indian and 31 years after the partition, what I yearn for is a decent and safe life and security of my family. Statistically speaking, India is a country with most of its working population under the age of 25. And I believe it would be similar in case of Pakistan. Do these youth really want this mess? Do they DESERVE it?
My answer would be no. Most urban and rural Indians (and I can vouch for them) dont want any mess with anyone. They are busy struggling for their daily breads. So these Ghosts of 47 hardly exist anymore in the minds. Its only in the history books as far as the Indian side is concerned.
@ Kalsoom,
for your info,
PatTalibs
Fake Talibs
American Talibs
Sufi Muhammed , in 2001, took 5000 militants alongwith him
to Afghanistan, failed negociations for money, half of them
left Sufi and joined PatTalibs and went to Afghanistan, the
other half was soldout to Rasheed Dostum by this
scoundrel Sufi. Rasheed Dostum a warlord helped by the
entire west, used them as shields set them free after
payment of 10,000 Rupees each,
- buried 700 of them alive in containers ( young militant
abandonned, because, found no one to pay for them),
some Afghanis might know the exact place where
the containers were buried
- 600 adults Balutchis, Pathan, Punjabis, Karachiits, Lahoris
etc etc were put in 6 containers and muchine-gunned from
all the sides, it was on Tv news papers.
In Karachi, Lahore, Hyderbad, Quetta Many parents are
looking for Sufi, who can not leave NWFP territory.
Sufi Muhammed is a paid mercenary along with his
son-in-law Fazlullah, right hand of Baithullah Mehsoud have
formed TNSM + TTP + Takfiris, they are trained, financed
and equipped in 21 Indian consulates in Afghanistan by
Indo/israeli experts on terrorism, and are totally backed by
Americans.
JUI- F and JUI-S were directly involved in recruitings !
Nizam-e-adl ” chaos agreement ” is signed between
Fake Talibans + American Talibans (with US approval)
and
1. Failed Provincial Govt of ANP (seculars, anti-Pakistan )
2. Failing Federal Govt. of PPP’ Zardari + Peer (secular, backed
& installed by US) protecting Indian agenda.
contd/……………………….
Great discussion & an interesting read.
I wish I knew more about what’s been going in Pakistan so I can understand it better and coming to this changinguppakistan.com website has been a great resource for me!
These discussions are awesome and gives the readers many different perspectives ..
I read somewhere that Mr. Haqqani has snubbed the US and asked them to stop lecturing and start helping.
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/stop-lecturing-help-us-pakistan-tells-west/91146-2.html
One thing that I do not understand is, when Unc Sam is already providing Military Aid to fight exactly the menace of terrorism, what else does it need? They don want Americans to set foot on Paki soil against Paki’s. Its own army has failed miserably against them. What help is Mr. Haqqani speaking of here?
Can you fathom this Kals?
TTV India,
Take whatever Haqqani says with a grain of salt – I think the govt thinks he’s gone “rogue,” i.e. he’s making statements that may or may not reflect the official government opinion. Also, his art of spinning has gone completely off the charts – I watched his interview with Wolf Blitzer and he even said we don’t have to worry about the Taliban going to Islamabad because Buner and Isb are “separated by mountains.” Someone needs to tell the guy that the Margalla Hills ain’t mountains, and that no one is buying his crap.
If he’s gone rouge, why can’t they remove him?
I don’t know – maybe they will remove him? Or maybe it’ll look really bad on Islamabad if they remove their top diplomat at a pivotal point when the military is moving in. Either way, opinion of Haqqani has gone very down in the policy circles.
Taliban’s recent adventures raise some basic questions about the Government and people of Pakistan:
1. Why is there not a people’s protest movement aganist the Taliban’s adventures? The march in support of reinstating the CJ has demonstrated the strength of Pakistan’s civil society.
2. Why was the Frointer Corps and not regular contingents of Pakistani Army dispatched to the area?
3. Why confront the taliban in Buner, when the Taliban and Sharia has benn accepted for Swat?
4. There have been reports that several political leaders like Nawaz Sharif, Altaf Hussain, Fazl-ur- Rehman are opposing the approach towards the Taliban, then how and why is the Govenment pursuing this approach?
http://thetrajectory.com/blogs/?p=444
The Trajectory,
1. There will be a protest this Tuesday in Lahore. Here’s the event info: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=80402601570
2. The FC was dispatched either because the Army didn’t want to move in a large number of troops or because the FC is actually from the region (see my comment above about the nuances about the Pak military). Obviously the FC have a long way to go – but they might be the key in this fight because they are from the region we are fighting in – they need to be better paid, given assurances that they and their families will be protected from the Taliban, and be properly trained in counterinsurgency warfare.
3. The military is now confronting the Taliban in the Swat region – but they were confronting them in Buner because they were moving outside the region dictated in the peace agreement. (Correct me if I’m wrong) The govt may have made Sharia legit in Malakand, but not in Buner.
4. I think the govt now realizes they need to change their approach in this war – hopefully.
Am sure about that Kals. THe irony of the region. Having morons sit the in the right places causing more damage than help. I read a bit abut this character and I think he is totally out of touch with reality. At least the Pakistani Population thinks so.
As for why is he around? I think it would be better to ask the Govt. about it. And am of the view that there is some strong lobby working for him in the US of A to keep him where he is. Probably for some strategic purposes of the US.
thanks for the reply….the info abt the protest rally was really gud!
Good news, but i for one am sick of all these dang politics in Pakistan. Its soo soo soo boring and thats all people talk about, without doing anything (JUST TALK AND NO ACTION, blah blah blah)! No disrespect to you or your blog though Kalsoom, i’m glad that you have taken the time to help change us!! Excellent!!
What we need is a revolution and that aint happenin. The people need to change first (their narrow mindsets). Crap its whatever the government says right. No elec so go out and get generators, ohh no dont come on the streets and protest. BULLCRAP
Selfish people will NOT:
(1) Get the satisfaction of doing good for the country.
(2) Use that satisfaction and help others help themselves (educate)
(3) Share with other members of the community. Even if it is just smiling for no benefit
…and we are very selfish people. I mean we just are ready to be *sneaky and put each other down instead of lifting them up. Tisk tisk its a shame, and the WORLD *clearly sees that. Hey look at them Pakistanis they are ready to go against each other at a drop of the hat. (unlike the Iranis who take a stand and at least have some respect from the world, even if they are hated) TAKE A STAND RIGHT?
Smile at someone in a civic or new cool car and they look at you like you are a flippin servant. Smile at a poor man or woman on the road and they will smile back. End the elitist regime I say…
Taliban, politics, blah blah it is all B.S. We need to change ourselves first before anything else happens. AND at the core of the government lies blackness…..
End the *elitist REGIME..
AHB
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And thanks for your comments, I completely agree with you, which is why I encourage those who are in Lahore to make it out to the rally tomm!
Start a revolution. We need to change ourselves first people. Lets get rid of our selfish attitudes for a start?
I say lets get rid of the Elitists, they the ones who are supporting Taliban and making themselves richer and richer and screwing up the nation.
Sheesh i mean most people cant even get their own lunch or wash a dish without a servant. How lame is that? LAME..
Taliban, ok its a problem but our main problem is our own selves and our attitudes and selfish behavior. Where’s the passion you all, only talk and talk and talk and talk.. Talk is cheap…
No dis to your blog Kalsom..Nice work and good attitude!! Bravo
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Nice post and great discussion with lots of different opinions. Enjoyed reading this. I was talking to a member of parliament last night and they had some interesting things to say about the whole Swat deal and the Taliban situation. Part of the issue with the Swat deal is that the army is willing to go in with overwhelming force and practically level the place, but the government has not been to keen on that for obvious reasons. The MP did say though that if the Taliban keeps on violating the deal made (and the deal is seen by some in the military as a stalling tactic) they will have no choice but to go in with overwhelming force and ignore the collateral damage. The MP went on to say that it seems like the government is increasingly seeing the situation on the terms, where they really don’t have much choice but to use brute force. So we will have to see how far that develops.
I was also speaking to a family member who is in the army and they said that most of the foot soldiers for the pak taliban and the TNSM and organizations of the like are ex dacoits, gangsters and criminals etc. These “mercenaries”, in effect, are basically going to the highest bidder. I went on further to ask this army man why the government isn’t paying these people more money to fight on the nation’s side, or at least to not join antistate forces, and they weren’t too keen on answering the question. Later I asked the same question of the MP (memb. of parl.) and they confirmed that these dacoits etc make up a large part of these taliban recruits and the government has tried to pay them. The government stopped because they feel it is too dangerous a game to play in the region.
The American delegation when they came asked the Pakistanis to employ this strategy but the pakistanis told them they aren’t willing to go down that path. That will basically perpetuate the same problem, that is taking place in the region right now. Basically, the way these forces were supported for Pakistan’s proxy wars, would be how they would function right now. Then once this conflict is eased, then again there are hundreds if not thousands of fighters who were previously on the govts. payroll, but now they are unemployed and without a conflict to engage in. And the cycle repeats, someone else comes along and pays them to fight for their cause. One can easily make the connection between recruiting and economic opportunities here etc. Basically, since a lot of these fighters are doing it for money and not really because they are ideologically in line with the Taliban, the Taliban’s strength is also somewhat fragile and temporary.
The military man i spoke to also was telling me that there are still vast factions of the Taliban which are in full control of the ISI and the army, which aren’t engaging in war with the Pakistan state. These Taliban are still of the Mullah Omar faction, and additionally, under orders from Mullah Omar have been instructed to fight in afghanistan, NOT pakistan. As far as Baitullah Mehsud is concerned, both the people I spoke to have confirmed that he is in fact being funded by russia and India. I understand that many pakistan like to attribute all militancy to foreign funding, but this is consistently the consensus among the military and the government in Pakistan. And if one looks at the deals made between the TNSM, Taliban and Pakistan, baitullah mehsud is nowhere to be found. The evidence given by these people about mehsud’s funding seems to add up. It basically comes down to the russians and indians wanting to destabilize the country and minimize Pakistan’s influence in afghanistan. Afghanistan is extremely important to russia, and in the military, baitullah mehsud is seen as Russia’s revenge for the Soviet defeat of the 80′s. Russia and India’s traditional alliance in afghanistan is seen as the heart of funding for baitullah mehsud. Sources will remain unnamed as the people I spoke to do not wish to be named. They do take the threats seriously and both have said that the situation will get worse before it gets better.
Wow, Shaheryar – loads of good food for thought in your comment, thanks for sharing.
Two things -
1. The mercenaries making up the foot soldiers of the Taliban network is interesting because it means the organization isn’t as “unified” as some would have you believe. It seems a little illogical to me that the govt claims they don’t want to pay these guys more because “it’s a dangerous game.” This is a method the military has employed for years – why stop now? Especially with the way the conflict is going?
2. The Russia/India theory is interesting but I’m actually not sure I buy the Indian part – how would an unstable Pakistan be beneficial for India, especially given the Mumbai attacks and how easily the LeT was able to infiltrate the country. I can see why the pressure of Beitullah on the western border would force Pakistan to shift its troops from East to West, but at this point I would hope that all state actors would see how geostrategically catastrophic it would be to have a Taliban-raging Pakistan on India’s left-hand side.
Also there is a way to at least neutralize the soldiers motivated by monetary reasons without creating a monster like we saw during the Soviet War in Afghanistan. How can we provide incentives to these people to at least halt their fighting – do they want the money for their own benefit or for their families? Do we consider these questions?
The reason that the gov doesn’t want to keep employing that strategy is because of blowback. It has already blownback, and if they do it again then this problem perpetuates itself and the cycle continues. If one can believe it, maybe the Pakistan government is actually acting with some foresight? possible? ahahahha maybe. hopefully. paying mercenaries after all is just a temporary solution, and if they can go in and level the place, the mercenaries will go with them.
As far as the india-russia nexus is concerned, i find it hard to believe at times as well. In the pak military, the number one paranoia aside from India, is the sentiment that the US always has it’s eyes on controlling Pakistan’s nukes. This for one is great for India. The only way that Pakistan’s nukes can be controlled from the outside is if Pakistan is destabilized, almost collapsing, the ISI is declared a terrorist agency (by linking them with the taliban/al qaeda etc.) and therefore a failed/rogue state. And in swoops the americans. simple..ahahahahaha..of course-this is the paranoia speaking on the part of the military. and it does sound like a conspiracy.
But what does ring true in this equation is that the more unstable pakistan is, and the more the ISI is linked with the taliban (indias enemy) the more paranoid the world gets about pakistans nukes and pakistan’s strength or percieved strength is reduced. Basically, it puts pressure on the international community to do something about a nuclear armed nation with a raging islamic militancy threatening to take over the country. And by doing something that would mean sanctions, etc. I’m not one for conspiracy theories, but the ISI and RAW have been playing dirty for years and that is the way it goes.
This india russia nexus issue of course is not substantiated but there is a wide consensus about it in state circles, and not by the usual conspiracy theorists. India has opened 12-17 consulates on the pakistan afghan border. In that recent foreign affairs piece one of the roundtable guests put it best, “it is not possible that so many consulates on the pak afgh border are just issuing visas.” If one looks at it practically, and follows the money, where is mehsuds money then coming from. The Taliban is funded by crime, kidnappings, (certain factions by the pakistani state), the poopy crop etc. Mehsud doesn’t have any of that working for him, so where could such a depth of funding come from? And it is not the Saudi’s, because most agree that the Wahhabi funding is going into southern punjab to the groups that are sectarian based.
So whilst one can take it with a grain of salt, there are just things which don’t add up when it comes to Mehsud’s paper trail.
Thoughts?
yes-i didn’t see the second part of your post. That is the crux of the issue and that is the whole development, lifting people out of poverty element. That is the only way, which is why I think the govt. paying them to fight is counter-productive. The long-term strategy would be that cliched strategy:economic development
Taleban are being funded by Russia and India, period.