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On Tuesday, the French Parliament began debate on the now-infamous burqa ban, the bill that would prevent women from wearing full-face veils (the niqab or burqa) in public. In a recent address, President Nicolas Sarkozy emphasized his support for the ban, telling French lawmakers, “In our country, we cannot accept that women be prisoners behind a screen, cut off from all social life, deprived of all identity.” He went on to state, “The burqa is not a religious sign, it’s a sign of subservience, a sign of debasement…It will not be welcome on the territory of the French Republic.”
The burqa is not just unwelcome in France, though. Belgium‘s lower house recently passed a similar measure and “Spain‘s senate recently narrowly voted to impose a ban, too,” reported BBC News. As the debate intensifies over the ban, polarizing statements by MPs, experts, and supporters will only lead to “more contentious headlines,” noted the Guardian’s Nabila Ramdani. She added, “The images used to accompany the scaremongering will be a combination of sinister figures clad in black; if possible set against the background of the kind of rundown council estates that blight France’s reputation for civic élan.”
I won’t delve into my in-depth opinion on the burqa ban, mainly because more eloquent people have already weighed in, (here is a great piece on Feministe). However, I do think an effort to ban the burqa/niqab won’t lead to more integration (one of the main tenets of French citizenship), but may instead exacerbate feelings of marginalization. Taking away a woman’s choice (if it is indeed her choice) is a violation of the individual, whether that translates to a veil ban or enforcement.
I do find the burqa debate as well as other commentaries on Muslim integration (the criticism over the building of mosques in the United States for example) important because they are a reflection of much wider issues . Two weeks ago, NY Times’ video journalist Adam Ellick had an interesting report on Burqavaganza, a satirical play written by Shahid Nadeem and produced by the Ajoka Theatre in Pakistan. The play, described as a “a love story in the time of jihad,” involves a young couple’s “struggle to form a relationship as societal forces try to keep them apart.” All the characters in the play – male and female – are clad in burqas, a metaphor for “creeping Talibanization” and “hypocrisy in a ‘hidden nation.’” The play was banned by the Pakistan National Council of the Arts, that bowed to pressure by Islamist groups, including the women’s wing of the Jamaat-e-Islami. The wing’s leader Samia Qazi told Ellick, “We are not against their freedom of expression…but freedom of expression ends when you start hurting somebody.”
So what does the burqa ban in Europe have to do with the Burqavaganza ban in Pakistan? First, the burqa, or the veil, is more symbolic than literal in both these controversies. In the case of France (and Europe), the full-face veil is seen as a threat to French values of secularism and [gender] equality, instead an indisputable sign of “subservience” and “imprisonment.” In Pakistan, supporters of the Burqavaganza ban noted the satire threatened to “pollute young minds,” showing a “contempt for history and local traditions.” The play, in its commentary on the oppressive use of the burqa, was seen as an attack on Islam and, in turn, on society.
Both bans/controversies therefore stem from a desire to preserve what is traditional and inherent in their respective societies. In many ways, they reflect the problem of ruling by fear, (fear that their values are under threat, of the unfamiliar, etc.) rather than allowing an open and genuine discourse to take place. Such policies and practices, regardless if it means banning the burqa or banning criticism of it, are ultimately unproductive because it further polarizes the debate rather than resolving any of its underlying issues.

Quick note: I did not watch Burqavaganza, so keep in mind this post was more a commentary on what the ban of the play was meant to represent. Rabayl has a more in-depth post on her blog: http://obamasaysdomore.wordpress.com/2010/07/04/burqavaganza/
Also, here’s a great segment by Al Jazeera on “Princess Hijab” a graffiti artist in France who has been drawing veils on ads as “art” (not a religious statement):
Though a part of me, in a hypocritical, contradictory way is a wee bit happy at the French attempts to discard the burqa from their society, this really isn’t the way to do it.
The burqa by and large is an oppressive piece of clothing. It’s not the hijab. It takes a person institutionalized into believing that wearing a piece of clothing that covers your whole body is in any way, shape or form ‘good for you’.
Moreover, a lot of French issues with the burqa are based around the logistics of dealing with these ninjas in places like banks etc where ID is required/mandatory. I’m generalizing here, but I think it’s safe to say that if a woman wears a burqa in public, she’ll be pretty peeved if she has to unveil herself in a bank/train station in front of other people or in front of a security person (especially if it’s a he).
I don’t know. Morally it does seem tetchy to limit the clothing that a person wears, but if this is the way to remove the burqa from our collective lives I’m not sure I want to lambast it too much.
But then again, the feministe article is pretty spot on. It ends up being more oppressive and additionally fuels the whole Islam is incompatible with Western secularist ideals (which it may very well be, but I’m not sure if a government should be screaming that). It’ll only further marginalize the banlieues and that really can’t be good.
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Sorry, I fail to see the point of this article. Based on a quick reading of this blog post and the one at the feminist website you recommend, my impression is that both yourself and the feminist author dislike the burqa but you would not ban it for various reasons. The cold, clever arguments that you ladies advance are totally devoid of sympathy and warmth for the women trapped in a mobile tent.
Why do Pakistani women have to follow the ideas and lifestyles which become fashionable in the West? Is it not possible for them to think independently?
If the author of this article is a practising Muslim with deeply held convictions then may I humbly point out to her an obvious point she may have missed? It is simply this: while this kind of intellectual self-indulgence may make you feel good, it is not going to be of any help to the burqa-clad ladies. Many of those ladies are unable to distinguish between culture and Islam (as brought to mankind by Muhammad Mustafa, Rehmatul-lil-aalameen). I do think that women in a privileged position, such as the author of this article, owe it to their Pakistani sisters to help them acquire a conviction that the mobile tent is a cultural thing, not linked to Islam as Deen (as distinct from the practices of a nominally Muslim society). The way to do that is three fold:
1. Free yourself from the oppressive weight of wanton westernisation.
2. Speak to your Pakistani sisters in THEIR language (which, in case you have forgotten, is your language too).
3. Show through your actions that you are truly a Muslim as defined in the Qur’an (what the mullah thinks is irrelevant)
Sakib,
Thanks for your comment. I have a few things to address though:
The purpose of this post was not to discuss the historic oppression of the burqa – if you were a reader of my blog (I am guessing this may be your first time visiting, so if you do choose to come back I’d ask you to read other posts), you’d know that I consistently address issues related to women in Pakistan – from honor crimes, to dowry (last contribution), to economic rights, to even the symbol of the dupatta in Pakistan. I have criticized Western feminists’ perspectives because sometimes I think they don’t take into consideration the nuances of an Islamic society and how feminism in our part of the world is different.
There is obviously a difference between the niqab/burqa and the hijab, and you’re right – the burqa has been used as a tool of oppression, imprisonment, etc. ESPECIALLY in Afghanistan/parts of Pakistan.
But the point of this post, was really to discuss the policy as a whole of the burqa ban – I apologize if that did come across as not empathetic, but because I often write about policies towards Muslims in Western societies being more ostracizing than integrating, I found this to be an interesting phenomenon, one worthy of discussion and more so, worthy of comparison to a policy of banning criticism of the burqa – ultimately, a lot of the rationale comes from a similar position – reactive policies when core identities or values feel under threat.
You mention that I should speak to my Pakistani sisters about the burqa, but again, I have spoken on many issues, and that was not the point of this post – which was to a. discuss the phenomenon of burqas in Europe (not Pakistan) and resulting policies. I am not a Muslim woman who covers her head, and yes, in my part of the world, the burqa HAS been used to keep women out of the public sphere, imprisoned behind a tent. It has been used as a tool of oppression, and purdah has enforced such notions as ok and part of the religion when it hasn’t been (it is VERY similar to the issue of honor in our part of the world, which again, I’ve written about multiple times).
But in terms of the burqa-clad women in Europe, I might not understand their choices, but I am not in a position to pass judgment on the ones who CHOOSE to wear it. I am of a similar mindset of yourself, who thinks no women would independently decide to wear the burqa/niqab, but I’m also not those women, who may have made that choice on their own (granted only 2000 wear the full-face veil in France). And here’s the question: will the burqa ban ultimately allow those women to walk burqa-free on the streets of Europe, allowed to integrate into society? I think it will make them go out even less.
This issue seems to keep reappearing every few weeks. Do you have any idea how many women in France actually wear the full face covering niqab (not just a scarf or hijab)? Just trying to get some perspective here.
Thanks,
PK
less than 2000 apparently! http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jul/08/france-burqa-ban-sarkozy-political-distraction
0.003% of the population!
What do you think about this? I am amazed such plays like the one mentioned in the post can take place in Pakistan.
It’s an issue of individual rights more so than anything else. If the government is actually worried about whether the women are being forced into a particular behavior, that’s a valid worry. But it’s already a crime. It is unlawful for once individual to force another individual, period. You can’t force your wife to wear a chicken costume either. A dress code prohibiting chicken costumes doesn’t address the issue of force.
The government’s responsibility is to protect rights of citizens, not strip them away. It’s also the government’s responsibility to presume innocence without evidence of guilt. That means the husbands of these burqa-wearing women must be presumed innocent as individuals of using force, until said women come forward to police as victims and actually make a complaint.
Until they make a complaint, we have to assume 100% of these women are wearing burqas voluntarily. A government-imposed dress code is obviously immoral and beyond the realm of government authority. It would remove rights, not protect them.
It’s up to police (and victims) to press charges, and investigate individual cases of force. Legislators should stay within their realm of authority and just pass laws making the penalties stiffer for husbands who remove rights away from their wives via force. Make it such that they’re deported, or put in prison for 10 years, whatever. But a dress code is never okay. The government has no authority to tell us how to dress, period.
Agree with this comment 100%. Very well said.
I’ll first note that if men walked into a bank with their faces covered, it will be immediately assumed that they intend to rob the bank.
e.g.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/bankrobber2.jpg
This article below has a picture of a French nun, Sister Marie-Simon-Pierre
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1547146/Miracle-nun-talks-of-her-Parkinsons-cure.html
I assume the French have no objection to her garb. Notice that she’s covered except for the face.
As far as religious freedom goes – is what she is wearing entirely compatible with Islamic tenets? If yes, then banning the full face burqa is not violating religious freedom.
Then there is the cultural aspect – perhaps the full face cover while perhaps not recommended in Islam is nevertheless compatible with Islam, and this is the traditional practice that the particular woman has grown up with. Well, cultural practices have to bend to circumstance – when in Rome, do as Romans do. E.g., you cannot live in France and insist on speaking only Arabic, even if that was your long-standing tradition.
Notice, (if my assumption is correct that the nun is compatible with Islamic rules), the burqa clash is a cultural one, not a religious one. To turn it into a religious one is doing no one any favors.
PS: to the nun’s attire, add a pair of large dark glasses, and the woman is as anonymous as possible without hiding her face.
Kalsoom,
Thanks for your explanation. You are quite right, that was my first visit though I have been aware of your blog through PakBlogging’s e-mails.
I do not know any burqa-clad ladies in England but I did know some in Pakistan. As teenagers, they were constantly badgered by their mothers to put on the burqa when going out and never to lift the veil outdoors [veil: a longish flap of muslin-like material which drops down from the forehead to cover the entire face, including the eyes]. So, unlike the picture that you show at the top of your article, the beauty of the girls’ eyes, too, was hidden from prying eyes! The girls did find ways of hoodwinking their mothers, of course, but I shan’t go into details. Later, when they married into equally conservative families, they were watched over by jealous husbands.
I suppose there are bound to be some women who wear the burqa out of conviction but I haven’t come across them.
The point that I made, and which has been reiterated by AG3L, is that cultural aspects need to be distinguished from religious commandments. The pity is that Islam has disintegrated into so many sects, each headed by an all-powerful mullah, that religion is what that mullah says it is. It does not matter what the Qur’an says because hardly anyone bothers to check the mullah’s pronouncements against the Quraanic injunctions.
In my opinion Sarkozy is a cheap showman, quite insincere. Nonetheless, something good may come of his manic actions which, as you and several others have pointed out, violate an individual’s freedom. I would prefer to look on as a neutral observer because I suspect that the burqa-clad ladies’ freedom of action is more illusory than real.
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I don’t get it. After reading about it extensively, all I have to ask is: Democracy, freedom of choice, acceptance, tolerance and, um, objectivity?
I thought a president would know about the terms.
The Burqa is the basic right of muslim women. The action taken by France govt against burqa is not appreciable.
Jimmy, I totally disagree that the burqa is the basic right of the muslim women. In fact, the Quran only asks the women to be modest, that is all. Muslim women didn’t even cover themselves in Prophet’s (p.b.u.h) life.
It was during the Caliphate of Hazrat Omar that Muslim women were asked to cover themselves, and again not in burqas. If you dwell in the history of Burqas they are worn by the Bedium tribes of Saudi Arabia, the same way, we wear Shalwar Kameez at home and same way, westerns wear jeans.
The French government is wrong to prescribe what people can wear and can’t. It is acting as a democratic country. The same way the Saudi government is wrong in to prescribe women to wear burqas
it is the “right” of muslim women to walk around with their faces covered while it is forbidden for the rest of the society to do the same (i.e. motor cycle helmets, mask, etc are not allowed in public places)? the public is not allowed to wear even a simple hat or sunglasses in a bank yet it is infringing on muslim women’s “rights” not to be able to cover their entire face? so, in essence, what you are saying is because they are muslim they are entitled to “rights” the rest of society is not?
and btw, the government infringes on our “rights” to wear whatever we want…you can’t walk naked down the street…society infringes on our “rights” to wear whatever we want….even fast food places do not allow you to enter in a swim suit (be it a bikini or a one piece…be you male or female)….the majority of restaurants and markets display signs on their doors “no shirt, no shoes, no service”…..so i don’t see the logic in your argument of infringement
although taking away personal freedom is against “western values” ..
it is not against “Muslim values” .. in our societies, taking away personal freedom in the name of religion is extremely common and usually a very respectful law making principle ..
lets hope the growing trend in the west against personal freedoms of Muslims helps become a mirror to ourselves.. we are being given a taste of our own medicine…
@Kalsoom
“I won’t delve into my in-depth opinion on the burqa ban, mainly because more eloquent people have already weighed in, (here is a great piece on Feministe). However, I do think an effort to ban the burqa/niqab won’t lead to more integration (one of the main tenets of French citizenship), but may instead exacerbate feelings of marginalization.”
I won’t go debating whether burqa is by choice or by religion or by apathy or the west or there sympathy for muslim women. But when you say that banning it will marginalize muslim population in west I would say you are think very short term. I would say that when girl child of today when they will grow up after the ban in France or Spain, will be able to identify more with their friends and neighbors and vice versa when compare to women of today. Your thoughts?
@Kalsoom,
Something not relevant with the discussion. Why don’t you add a Facebook or Twitter tab on this blog so that more people know about it and probably we can share some interesting discussion with our friends…???
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