Mohammed Ali Jinnah, [also known as Quaid-e-Azam] the father of Pakistan, once asserted that our country was founded upon the principles of “Unity, Faith, Discipline,” [see above image, taken in Islamabad]. However, the order of his words have long been debated – with Urdu texts often noting it to be, Iman, Ittehad, Tanzeem [Faith, Unity Discipline, see below image] and English text books listing the order with Unity first. The difference is subtle yet significant, and made me reflect on the evolution of our country since 1947.
When my father grew up in Karachi in the 1950s and 60s, the principle of unity was manifested in the numerous faiths and ethnicities living together seamlessly [for the most part]. Pakistan seemed more about the sum of its parts than divisive internal identities. Is that still true today? Many of the country’s minorities have since left, and militants pervert religion to justify violence and intolerance. If the original motto of Pakistan was “Unity, Faith, Discipline,” does that order still hold true today? Has putting faith before unity been detrimental to the cohesion of our nation?
The problem of Pakistan is that people still question – “Why was Pakistan created?”.
If Quaid-e-Azam was a mullah with a beard, things would have been a lot easier today.
I see him as a mullah who had a cigar in his hand.
It doesnt matter much if its “unity faith discipline” or “faith unity discipline”, in the end we should be disciplined, that’s what matters to me. Either through unity and faith or vice versa.
http://pakistan-warriorabdulbasit.blogspot.com/2008/05/unity-faith-discipline.html
sometime back..i tried to analyze the three basic fundamentals.
But if we prioritize faith before unity, then what does that mean for the countrie’s minorities? I have no problem with the term, ‘faith’ but I think its interpreted to mean a very narrow version of Islam, and those who don’t fall within that definition are immediately excluded.
i dnt think so there there’s something wrong in saying FAITH first….
Kalsoom….In Islam, everyone has rights. Rights of a husband, wife, minorities and rights for slaves have been also explained.
We expect robots to do as ordered, but dont want to follow what our Creator has ordered us to do.
I believe this is the sole reason of our failure.
And if there is no faith, then for what people would be united for?
The problem is that we dont have faith i.e we dont fear God anymore.
If Pakistan, was run the way it should have been, we wouldnt have to take dictation from the pentagon then.
It would have been a strong country with strong people residing in.
Revolution will take place in this country, but I am not sure if we would be alive by then. 🙂
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Excellent idea. I know broaching this subject is kinda tricky but it’s something which we all need to talk about. My opinion: Pakistan is an Islamic state. Therefore faith is foremost. But then that is such a cookie cutter definition.
Unity also means faith aka religion and being religious means having discipline. So all in all, it’s intertwined, it’s the sum of the parts that should be looked at and not only at the parts. So to me, order doesn’t matter. It’s the ends to the means and not the means to the end which really matter.
We Pakistanis have a long way to go in even upholding one of the pillars that our state was created on.
@ hamaray carav’n ko paish aisi rehgozaar aie,
ne rehbar saazgar aiey, ne manzil saazgar aie
( late Ustad Qamar Jalalvi )
@abdlsy,
thanks, dud, it was brilliant !!
What genre of dumbness should I place you Abdul Basit Khawaja? Faith before unity or the other way around, it doesn’t even matter unless or until u have understood what was meant by FAITH, UNITY AND DISPIPLINE back in those days of Quaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah, Faith doesn’t mean just fear form God, Faith was meant in terms of ur country your Pakistan, to be Patriotic to your country, have faith in ur country in ur people and that is the basic reason why we have failed today, there is no trust between us and so have we lost unity another Golden word, since we are out of these we are also loosing discipline!
@ Imaan, Ittehaad, Nazm
translation of the above into a branch of Indo Germanic,
called English
Faith ( in English ? what is the definition ? ) belief ?
( in French ? la fois i.e. croyance)
wherer as
Imaan ( came from Arabic adopted by
Farsi, Turkish, Urdu, Kurde, Bosniac
Bangla, Pashtoo, Indonesian, Malaya, Soahili,
and many other muslim languages.
Imaan being a Quranic Arabic word means only,
faith in Allah and all related to HIM!!
Yaqeen-e-Muhkum can be equivalent of Trust in your
country made out of an ideology, based on the foundations,
not the terra cota. Faith is a vulgar English translation of
Imaan, but the nearest available one.
All of you how any doubts visit the site below or CHECK our STATE EMBLEM……….
It was and is Faith, Unity, Discipline…and unfortunately Turned into Unity, Faith Discipline, by our politicians to serve their purposes………
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_emblem_of_Pakistan
Gouhar
@ raza
I dont need to ask you in which genre of dumbness you fit in, you are just the best!
I ‘never’ said faith should come first or unity….read the first post…so
Secondly, Faith has two perspectives i.e. love and fear of Allah…
I shared the perspective which people dont know about anymore i.e. fear of Allah which is as important as loving the Almighty….
Moreover, your formula to achieve the three characteristics are the same as I have suggested (the difference is the way we have expressed it), u copy me and then you call me dumb…u a very strange guy brother :)…
dude, if you say “Discipline”..it wil mean discipline only and not Unity. If you say “unity” first..it will mean unity only and not discipline. BUT if you use the word FAITH…it has ALL in it…including UNITY, and DISCIPLINE..and everything! so which one is better first? obviously FAITH??
btw, i do not believe reshuffling the famous Quaid’s quote would do any change or any harm…but if ou believe so, i think FAITH dominating all others would have a greater impact, as i explaind ^ above 😀
good luck
@slugnumber202:Thx bro your Description will really help me I am collecting info about this 😛
I am of the view that Pakistan was created by English to serve their purpose. Jinnah was used by them. After coming into existence he was arranged to die in such a fashion as ambulance carrying him was old one the engine of which stopped on way from airport to GG house. He was also not rushed to hospital and died as village pregnant woman dies before reaching hospital. Then with inception of Pakistan the rulers were also borrowed from India. Instead of Bengali, Punjabi,Sindhi, Pathan or Balochi both GG and PM were brought from India. The crisis of leadership which began on 14 August 1947 has still not been resolved and continues even today.
The term “faith” can mean whatever you want it to mean. It can apply to both Muslims and non-Muslims in Pakistan in a positive way. Remember Surah Al-Kafirun in the Noble Qur’an, which says “To you is your religion and to me is my religion.” Let everyone practice what they want, as Allah does not want us to force people to change their beliefs. But remember: always have faith, and as Muslims, it should be the first priority for us, since our faith makes us who we are, and will get us where we want. Insha’Allah